Friday, November 10, 2017

                                                                      Ice or flood?


Quick step back:

Not long ago, Supergirl had an episode in which she was worshiped as a goddess for saving a guy kn a plane but she corrects his misapprehension through a series of adventures and he ends of in jail for trying to blow up an auditorium.  He ends up saying she is a god who has lost her way so he is praying to her god to reveal it to her.

The Gnostic idea of lesser gods, that God himself is too pure to reach out and touch us so Jesus must be some lesser version.

 Meanwhile, Thor: Ragnarok is a fascinating case of the massive subversive nature of humor.

Does the plot sound familiar?  Thor's older sister, Hela, used to be second in command of the kingdom and she and Odin forged the current empire.  He became concerned about her ambition and banished her.  She has returned now the Odin is gone and takes over again.  Thor is cast into a chaos dimension, forced to fight in "hell".  When he frees himself from this electronic "leash" he and his brother Loki who has been buddying up to the leader of "hell"  start a rebellion among the slaves.  They return to Asgard to free it from Hela.  When Thor realizes she has too much power for them he gets Loki to summon up Surthur the god of fire to utterly destroy Asgard AND Hela with it.  The people of Asgard are now in the wilderness of space with Thor to lead them.  In other words, this woman who was once the leader is trying to take over a system she thoroughly understands how to run and run it with absolute authority though the ones in charge want to keep her from coming back and the rich kid god who has  been on Earth and in love with beauties there decides to destroy the system and run it a new way.  So long as he's the leader.  This will likely be President Trump's favorite movie. Certainly, it will be Steve Bannon's.  Or Bernie Sanders'.

The USA has been divided into us against them and the same thing has been going on in Europe. The stage is set for the Antichrist who will appeal to everyone since he wants to destroy the system and everyone seems to have a different reason to hate the system which they see as not understanding them.  His first miracle will be to unite those feeling that way.  His control of the monetary system will let him begin to rebuild poor countries to make them more attractive to the ones who would normally flee them and to also tell a successful Europe that the immigrants can go home now.  He will shift money into youthful projects and will encourage older people to "go alone onto the ice floe" and open the way for the young.  Everyone will think these are great ideas, especially the banks who have to fund retirement programs and pay people back if they live long enough.  The unemployed young with limited education will love the idea of jobs being open.  Europe will find a guy who doesn't have Christian values but portrays himself as having them while handling all the problems in an Earthly manner.

The main  problem they will see is competition from other economic giants like the USA, Russia and China.  But if two of those giants were gone due to acts of God...

Which brings me to discussing the weather. you know the stuff everyone talks about but no one does anything about.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/06/world/two-degrees-question-ice-ages/index.html

(CNN)As part of CNN's Two Degrees series on climate change, Jonas Martin of Seattle asked the following question, which travels a long way back in time: "There have been hundreds, if not thousands of ice ages in the past, before humans walked the Earth. How was this extreme climate change possible without humans, and isn't climate change natural?"

This is a popular question that we have received more than a dozen times in various forms. And it's a fair question: If the Earth has cycled naturally between extremes larger than where we are now and even where we could be heading, why should someone believe that humans are causing the recent warming?

The other part of this view point is if the Earth reaches these extremes periodically on its own, why should people worry if it does so because of human actions?

The quick answer to the first part of the question, which is likely already known by most who pose the question in the first place, is yes: The Earth's climate has changed, many times, going back millions of years.

These large-scale climate shifts consist of colder ice ages followed by much warmer interglacial periods, characterized by melting ice sheets and higher sea levels.

The causes of these shifts were indeed natural. After all, humans didn't begin to significantly interfere with the climate system through the burning of fossil fuels until the Industrial Revolution.
Our distant past helps us see our future

So how can we say that the recent warming we have seen is caused by humans and not just this natural cycle?

By knowing about these natural cycles and studying them, it makes us even more confident that the recent warming we have seen over the past 150 or so years is caused by humans and our emission of greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere.

Scientists understand the natural processes behind the previous warm and cold periods that lead to ice ages. They occur in regular patterns called Milankovitch cycles. These cycles occur because the Earth's orbit around the sun is not constant.

The shape of the orbit changes, the tilt of the Earth on its axis changes and the even the direction of the axis changes over time. All of these changes result in varying amounts of energy (i.e. heat) that the planet receives from the sun. That, of course, determines how warm or cold the planet becomes.
While these cycles do impact Earth in much the same way as we are seeing now, they happen very, very slowly.

These cycles take place on 100,000 year time frames, and the amount of warming we have seen, even though it is "only" about 1.5°F (0.85° C) since 1880, would take many thousands of years to occur if the process were occurring purely naturally. Also, when you plot these orbital cycles out, we should be in a "cooling" phase of the cycle -- not warming.

The other important fact we learn when looking at these long-term cycles is that greenhouse gases, namely carbon dioxide and methane, move up and down with the global temperature. When greenhouse gases are high, the Earth is warm, when they are low, the Earth is cool.
But again, when these changes are occurring naturally, they take thousands to tens of thousands of years to occur, whereas humans have caused this to occur in just over 100 years. In fact, humans have pushed the level of carbon dioxide in our atmosphere to levels not seen in millions of years. The last time levels were this high, sea levels were several meters higher and temperatures were several degrees warmer.

So yes, the climate changes naturally, in much the same way it is changing now, but it happens much, much slower. That in turn gives the Earth, and its various life forms, time to adapt. When these changes occur rapidly, you can have mass extinctions.

                                                                                                                                                                   

Young Earth believers don't give this credence and I don't blame them.  But there is evidence that Ice Ages have occurred some of it very hard to deny.  How many and over how many years can be discussed, but ice has sometimes ruled the world. It could again.





https://www.technologyreview.com/s/416786/global-warming-vs-the-next-ice-age/


Will the greenhouse effect prevent the return of glaciers?

by Franklin Hadley Cocks ’63, SM ’64, ScD ’65  December 21, 2009

Global warming is an inescapable issue for our age. But 180 years ago, most scientists believed that Earth had been steadily cooling since it was formed. When Louis Agassiz presented the concept of a Great Ice Age to the Swiss Society of Natural Sciences in 1837, his suggestion that the planet had turned colder and then warmed up again was met with skepticism and even hostility, triggering years of fierce scientific debate before the idea was accepted.

Exactly why our planet occasionally cools down has taken more than a century to work out. Now we know that cyclic gravitational tugs from Jupiter and Saturn periodically elongate Earth’s orbit, and this effect combines from time to time with slow changes in the direction and degree of Earth’s tilt that are caused by the gravity of our large moon. Consequently, summer sunlight around the poles is reduced, and high-­latitude regions such as Alaska, northern Canada, and Siberia turn cold enough to preserve snow year-round. This constant snow cover reflects a great deal of sunlight, cooling things down even more, and a new ice age begins. Naturally, this process does not occur with anything like the speed portrayed in the movie The Day After Tomorrow, but geological and other evidence shows that it’s happened at least four times.

With so much attention focused on global warming, this chilly prospect has been all but forgotten. Given how catastrophic another ice age could be, one might be tempted to ask whether a human-caused increase in atmospheric and ocean temperatures will actually be a boon.

There’s little question that global warming is happening. Climate data show that Earth’s average temperature has risen at least 0.7  oC (1.3 oF) over the 20th century. Temperature increases over the 21st century will probably be two and a half to five times as large,because greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide allow sunlight to penetrate the atmosphere but make it harder for outgoing infrared radiation to escape. What’s more, just as carbonated soda fizzes when it warms up, warmer temperatures cause the ocean to release carbon dioxide taken up during colder periods. Analyses of air trapped in glacial ice over the last 800,000 years show that atmospheric carbon dioxide generally ranged between 200 and 300 parts per million by volume (ppmv); increases in these levels were slightly preceded by increases in temperature caused by natural orbital shifts. During this period, global temperature varied by about 12 oC. Now, carbon levels are approaching 400 ppmv as the burning of fossil fuels pumps more and more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. Even if the rate of growth could be moderated enough to stabilize levels at about 550 ppmv, average temperatures might well rise by about 5 oC–with devastating effects for us earthlings, such as rising sea levels and dramatic changes in weather patterns.

But even that warming will not stave off the eventual return of huge glaciers, because ice ages last for millennia and fossil fuels will not. In about 300 years, all available fossil fuels may well have been consumed.Over the following centuries, excess carbon dioxide will naturally dissolve into the oceans or get trapped by the formation of carbonate minerals. Such processes won’t be offset by the industrial emissions we see today, and atmospheric carbon dioxide will slowly decline toward preindustrial levels. In about 2,000 years, when the types of planetary motions that can induce polar cooling start to coincide again, the current warming trend will be a distant memory.

This means that humanity will be hit by a one-two punch the likes of which we have never seen. Nature is as unforgiving to men as it was to dinosaurs; advanced civilization will not survive unless we develop energy sources that curb the carbon emissions heating the planet today and help us fend off the cold when the ice age comes. Solar, nuclear, and other non-fossil-­fuel energy sources need to be developed now, before carbon emissions get out of hand. MIT alumni could play a prominent part in discovering the technology needed to keep us all going. And there are fortunes to be made from the effort. It’s worth thinking about.

Professor Franklin Hadley Cocks ‘63, SM ‘64, ScD ‘65, teaches energy technology and climate-related courses at Duke University and is the author of Energy Demand and Climate Change (Wiley-VCH), which summarizes energy and climate issues of the past, present, and future.
                                                                                                                                                                   

That was 2010.  The writer neglected to mention that the long off ice age scenario isn't always the cause or even the sole cause of an ice age, especially a localized one.  Also we see an element of other concerns in the urge for others to make money on the notion of a disastrous climate change. But then this is an engineer who is absolutely certain of himself.  The arrogance of our age is astonishing, found in everyone of every social strata.  It is especially dangerous in those who know nothing to begin with and are absolutely certain they know their jobs.  I have been that person sometimes and it is the worst pace to be.  Because some one will often believe you and get in trouble because of it.  That's why it can be so dangerous to others.  That's why I always say this is a scenario and not a prophecy.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/earth/cause-ice-age.html


During the past billion years, the Earth's climate has fluctuated between warm periods—sometimes even completely ice-free—and cold periods, when glaciers scour the continents. In this article, climate scientist Kirk Maasch offers perspective on these historic changes, including the likely causes of the last great ice age—which contrary to common knowledge, we are still in the midst of.


Hubbard Glacier in Alaska, like other glaciers worldwide, is retreating. To understand changing climate today, we need a perspective on changes of the past.

THE NATURE OF ICE AGES

Ice ages are times when the entire Earth experiences notably colder climatic conditions. During an ice age, the polar regions are cold, there are large differences in temperature from the equator to the pole, and large, continental-size glaciers can cover enormous regions of the Earth.

Ever since the Pre-Cambrian (600 million years ago), ice ages have occurred at widely spaced intervals of geologic time—approximately 200 million years—lasting for millions, or even tens of millions of years. For the Cenozoic period, which began about 70 million years ago and continues today, evidence derived from marine sediments provide a detailed, and fairly continuous, record for climate change. This record indicates decreasing deep-water temperature, along with the build-up of continental ice sheets. Much of this deep-water cooling occurred in three major steps about 36, 15 and 3 million years ago—the most recent of which continues today.

During the present ice age, glaciers have advanced and retreated over 20 times, often blanketing North America with ice. Our climate today is actually a warm interval between these many periods of glaciation. The most recent period of glaciation, which many people think of as the "Ice Age," was at its height approximately 20,000 years ago.

Although the exact causes for ice ages, and the glacial cycles within them, have not been proven, they are most likely the result of a complicated dynamic interaction between such things as solar output, distance of the Earth from the sun, position and height of the continents, ocean circulation, and the composition of the atmosphere.

As glaciers spread and retreat, they shape the geology of continents.

CLIMATIC COOLING FROM 60 MILLION YEARS AGO TO PRESENT DAY

Between 52 and 57 million years ago, the Earth was relatively warm. Tropical conditions actually extended all the way into the mid-latitudes (around northern Spain or the central United States for example), polar regions experienced temperate climates, and the difference in temperature between the equator and pole was much smaller than it is today. Indeed it was so warm that trees grew in both the Arctic and Antarctic, and alligators lived in Ellesmere Island at 78 degrees North.
But this warm period, called the Eocene, was followed by a long cooling trend. Between 52 and 36 million years ago, ice caps developed in East Antarctica, reaching down to sea level in some places. Close to Antarctica, the temperature of the water near the surface dropped to between 5 and 8 degrees Celsius. Between 36 and 20 million years ago the Earth experienced the first of three major cooling steps. At this time a continental-scale temperate ice sheet emerged in East Antarctica. Meanwhile, in North America, the mean annual air temperature dropped by approximately 12 degrees Celsius.
We are still in the midst of the third major cooling period that began around 3 million years ago.
Between 20 and 16 million years ago, there was a brief respite from the big chill, but this was followed by a second major cooling period so intense that by 7 million years ago southeastern Greenland was completely covered with glaciers, and by 5-6 million years ago, the glaciers were creeping into Scandinavia and the northern Pacific region. The Earth was once more released from the grip of the big chill between 5 and 3 million years ago, when the sea was much warmer around North America and the Antarctic than it is today. Warm-weather plants grew in Northern Europe where today they cannot survive, and trees grew in Iceland, Greenland, and Canada as far north as 82 degrees North.

We are still in the midst of the third major cooling period that began around 3 million years ago, and its effect can be seen around the world, perhaps even in the development of our own species. Around 2 and a half million years ago, tundra-like conditions took over north-central Europe. Soon thereafter, the once-humid environment of Central China was replaced by harsh continental steppe. And in sub-Saharan Africa, arid and open grasslands expanded, replacing more wooded, wetter environments. Many paleontologists believe that this environmental change is linked to the evolution of humankind

(The Garden became a woods.  W.)

POSSIBLE EXPLANATIONS FOR THE PAST 60 MILLION YEARS OF COOLING
Climate change on ultra-long time scales (tens of millions of years) are more than likely connected to plate tectonics. Plate motions lead to cycles of ocean basin growth and destruction, known as Wilson cycles, involving continental rifting, seafloor-spreading, subduction, and collision. Several explanations of the latest cooling trend that involve a climate-tectonic connection are summarized below.

GEOGRAPHIC DISTRIBUTION AND SIZE OF CONTINENTS

Through the course of a Wilson cycle continents collide and split apart, mountains are uplifted and eroded, and ocean basins open and close. The re-distribution and changing size and elevation of continental land masses may have caused climate change on long time scales. Computer climate models have shown that the climate is very sensitive to changing geography. It is unlikely, however, that these large variations in the Earth's geography were the primary cause of the latest long-term cooling trend as they fail to decrease temperatures on a global scale.

Likewise, changing topography cannot, by itself, explain this cooling trend. Computer model experiments performed to test the climate's sensitivity to mountains and high plateaus show that plateau uplift in Tibet and western North America has a small effect on global temperature but cannot explain the magnitude of the cooling trend. Plateau uplift does, however, have a significant impact on climate, including the diversion of North Hemisphere westerly winds and intensification of monsoonal circulation.

GEOMETRY OF OCEAN BASINS

Another theory explaining these changes in climate involves the opening and closing of gateways for the flow of ocean currents. This theory suggests that the redistribution of heat on the planet by changing ocean circulation can isolate polar regions, cause the growth of ice sheets and sea ice, and increase temperature differences between the equator and the poles.

Ocean modeling experiments suggest that the ocean could not have carried enough heat to the poles to maintain the early warm climates. But atmospheric climate modeling experiments show that even if the ocean did transport enough heat up to the coast of Antarctica to maintain sea surface temperatures at 10 to 15 degrees Celsius, the interior conditions would still be much colder—and this is contrary to the geologic record. It is possible, however, that changes in heat transport caused by variations in ocean gateways may have played a significant role in cooling trends over the last 60 million years, and, in particular, may help explain some of the relatively sudden cooling events.

ATMOSPHERIC CARBON DIOXIDE
Changes in the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere are a strong candidate to explain the overall pattern of climatic change. Carbon dioxide influences the mean global temperature through the greenhouse effect. The globally averaged surface temperature for the Earth is approximately 15 degrees Celsius, and this is due largely to the greenhouse effect. Solar radiation entering earth's atmosphere is predominantly short wave, while heat radiated from the Earth's surface is long wave. Water vapor, carbon dioxide, methane, and other trace gases in the Earth's atmosphere absorb this long wave radiation. Because the Earth does not allow this long wave radiation to leave, the solar energy is trapped and the net effect is to warm the Earth. If not for the presence of an atmosphere, the surface temperature on earth would be well below the freezing point of water.
Through a million year period, the average amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is affected by four fluxes: flux of carbon due to (1) metamorphic degassing, (2) weathering of organic carbon, (3) weathering of silicates, (4) burial of organic carbon. Degassing reactions associated with volcanic activity and the combining of organic carbon with oxygen release carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. Conversely, the burial of organic matter removes carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.

The inevitable shifting of tectonic plates is also a driver of climate change.

Plate collisions disrupt these carbon fluxes in a variety of ways, some tending to elevate and some tending to lower the atmospheric carbon dioxide level. It has been suggested that the Eocene, the early warm trend 55 million years ago, was caused by elevated atmospheric carbon dioxide and that a subsequent decrease in atmospheric carbon dioxide led to the cooling trend over the past 52 million years. One mechanism proposed as a cause of this decrease in carbon dioxide is that mountain uplift lead to enhanced weathering of silicate rocks, and thus removal of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.

In addition, the collision of India and Asia led to the uplift of the Tibetan Plateau and the Himalayas. While topography may not be enough to explain the cooling trends, another mechanism may account for changing climate. The uplift may have caused both an increase in the global rate of chemical erosion, as well as erode fresh minerals that are rapidly transported to lower elevations, which are warmer and moister and allow chemical weathering to happen more efficiently. Through these mechanisms, then, it has been hypothesized that the tectonically driven uplift of the Tibetan Plateau and the Himalayas is the prime cause of the post-Eocene cooling trend.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/climate/impact/gulf_stream.shtml


The Gulf Stream

The world's oceans move constantly. Ocean currents flow in complex patterns and are affected by the wind, the water's salinity and temperature, the shape of the ocean floor, and the earth's rotation.

The Gulf Stream is one of the strongest ocean currents in the world. It is driven by surface wind patterns and differences in water density. Surface water in the north Atlantic is cooled by winds from the Arctic. It becomes more salty and more dense and sinks to the ocean floor. The cold water then moves towards the equator where it will warm slowly. To replace the cold equator-bound water, the Gulf Stream moves warm water from the Gulf of Mexico north into the Atlantic.

The Gulf Stream brings warmth to the UK and north-west Europe and is the reason we have mild winters. Without this steady stream of warmth the British Isles winters are estimated to be more than 5C cooler, bringing the average December temperature in London to about 2C.

At the end of the last Ice Age, when the ice sheet covering North America melted, the sudden increase in fresh water reduced the salinity of the north Atlantic surface water and therefore less 'dense water' sank and moved towards the equator. This reduced, or even shut-down completely, the warm Gulf Stream. Temperatures in north-west Europe fell by 5C in just a few decades.

Recent observations have shown that since 1950 there has been a decrease of 20% in the flow of cold water in the Faeroe Bank channel between Greenland and Scotland. This is one source of cold dense water that drives the density-based component of the Gulf Stream. There may be an increase in flow from other cold water sources, but, if not, it could be the start of the slow down of the Gulf Stream.

The IPCC believe it is very likely that the Gulf Stream will slow down during the 21st Century but very unlikely it will undergo a ‘large abrupt transition’. The average reduction predicted by the various models used is 25%. This slowing will have a cooling effect but the temperature will still increase in the region overall.

It suggests that the British Isles, especially western regions, will see a significantly smaller temperature increase than other areas of land mass.


The ice age could begin with the alteration of the Gulf Stream.  Great Britain recently experienced a touch of the climate event.  

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/26/gale-force-winds-heavy-rain-hit-uk-tail-end-hurricane-maria/

Hurricane Maria is on its way across the North Atlantic and could hit the UK at the weekend, forecasters have warned.

The Met Office said the potential weather effects will be "far from those experienced in the Caribbean", but added that weather systems like Maria can bring very strong winds and heavy rain.


Autumn weather will dominate this week with foggy nights alongside wet and windy spells, while forecasters advise keeping an eye on updates about the potential impacts of Maria over the coming days.




http://www.actforlibraries.org/jet-stream-gulf-stream-polar-shifts-and-climate-changes/

Jet Stream Gulf Stream Polar Shifts and Climate changes

Earth Science



The Jet Stream, Gulf Stream, Polar Shifts and Global Climate Change

Are the two connected? Yes I firmly believe they are.

What is happening to the jet stream is similar in ways to what is happening to the Gulf Stream. Both are being affected by the changing conditions on the planet and both are causing changes to our climate. Throw into the mix the weakening polar field that is the beginning of a polar flip and our planet really is in a state of turmoil.

What is the Jet Stream?

In simplistic terms they are fast flowing air currents in the upper atmosphere. The main ones on Earth are westerly winds, which flow from west to east. The main jet streams on earth are the Polar Jets, which are located around 7-12km above sea level, above these are the slightly weaker Subtropical Jets which sit around 10-16km above sea level. Both poles have their own set of Polar and Subtropical Jets, the Northern hemisphere jet flows over the middle to northern latitudes, thus covering North America, Europe and Asia. While the southern hemisphere polar jet tends to mostly circle the Antarctic. The Jet Streams are caused by a combination of factors, the planets rotation on its axis and atmospheric heating from solar radiation.

What is the Gulf Stream?

Again in simplistic terms, the Gulf Stream is a fast flowing, warm Atlantic Ocean current that begins at the tip of Florida, it follows the eastern coastlines of the U.S and Newfoundland before crossing the Atlantic Ocean. The Gulf Stream influences the climate of the east coast of North America to Newfoundland, and the west coast of Europe.

It would appear then that in some ways the two forces are linked; now throw in the polar activity and see what we get.

What is the Polar Shift

It appears that our Magnetic field is weakening, and the result could be a mass polar flip, North becomes south and vice versa, if this is indeed on the cards and a flip of the magnetic poles already underway this would undoubtedly have some connection to the extreme and weird weather we are experiencing.

The current issue is down to the ‘Blocked Jet Stream’ which has caused our weather pattern to literally become locked in place, hence the sudden and continued change in climate for most of the Northern Hemisphere.

The Blockage appears to have started mid-July, since which time the good warm weather in the UK has ceased, Russia and Japan are locked in a heat wave and Pakistan has been ravaged by floods.

Look at each case on its own and the capacity of noticeable changes to our climate is apparent, put all three together and they could be the combined reason for the ‘freak weather’ we are currently experiencing. The saying, ‘A butterfly flaps its wings in Brazil and a Tornado strikes Kansas’ comes to mind. What we are seeing s the ever changing cycle of life that the planet has undergone many times, the only difference now is we are here and aware of what is happening to the world around us.



It would be foolish to believe that each seemingly separate issue is in fact separate, if it effects are planet wide then it is connected. If the Gulf Stream weakens due to melting polar ice then surely this will affect the Jet Streams, and if the magnetic poles are weakening this will also affect the behaviour of the Jet Streams. The final factor of our sun being at a point of low solar activity could be another, more external cause to our current dilemma. The exact causes for the unusual weather system and the blockage of the Jet Stream is unknown, we can but hypothesis as to the reasons. But I firmly believe that the above mentioned issues are all connected, when one part of our fragile eco-system beings to fail then other area’s will eventually being to suffer.

                                                                                                                                                                 

The weather in England will be cooling also.  The ice encroaches on Northern Europe during this cycle.  EU membership falls as ice increases.  The AC run EU forms a alliance with Israel and then moves it's HQ to Jerusalem to keep it safe from weather change.  Banking interests move to the economically secure Iran due to weather fears.  Security provided by the American trained and supplied troops makes it seem like a good idea, too.  Everything is done by electronic monies by that time so keeping records in a safe society is essential.  Bit coin is the new gold standard.  American currency has become irrelevant,

North Korea sees the ice trap as an opening, launching their twelve long range missiles at the USA, but first launching a short range one at the Sea of Japan.  The device is designed to explode a half mile above the US fleet stationed there, cooking the sailors, marines and seals in their mighty ships.

North Korea means this act to force the hand of it's mighty ally, China.  The leader feels it will inspire his communist ally to join in the exchange  of bombs.  Surely, once they see the imperialists are so weak, they will send their full might to destroy them.

China has other things on its mind as since the attack is launched without warning even to them they are taken as much by surprise as anyone.  They have no intention of emptying their arsenal on a weakened USA.  the former enemy has so few nukes left thanks to the freeze, they could hardly so significant damage  to the People's Republic.  The strongman heading the country now sees a far greater threat in a destabilizing Russia, one which did not launch nukes into the Middle East because they understood that their loss in the Israel battle was not cause to destroy the massive oil reserves held by Israel's neighbors, something they threatened to do when the battle started, were o  the verge of when the hailstorms, more results of the cursed American weather tampering,  won the day for them.   The Chinese do not relish the idea of a wounded dog at their western frontier, especially if they use up a lot of nuclear weaponry on an unneeded war.

But the North Koreans have placed most of their nuclear research and and development facilities and their testing areas near of on the border of Southern China.  Neighboring Jilin and Liaoning provinces.  If the US retaliates against those bases, it will surely send radioactive fallout into China.  The leader of North Korea has truly forced China's hand, But too late.

North Korea would likely have been made to understand that had it made it through it's war.

Ship to shore missiles blast the North Korean nuke from the sky miles from the fleet.  Radioactive  debris falls into


The map located below shows that the nuclear facilities are located mainly near  along the Yalu Jiang and the capital of P'Yongyang.

http://www.nti.org/gmap/nuclear_north_korea.html?/

                                                                                                                                                    

https://www.britannica.com/place/Yalu-River

Yalu River, Chinese (Pinyin) Yalu Jiang or (Wade-Giles romanization) Ya-lü Chiang, Korean Amnok-kang, river of northeastern Asia that forms the northwestern boundary between North Korea and the Northeast region (Manchuria) of China. The Chinese provinces of Jilin and Liaoning are bordered by the river. Its length is estimated to be about 500 miles (800 km), and it drains an area of some 12,260 square miles (31,750 square km). From a mountainous source in the Changbai Mountains, the river flows southwestward to drain into Korea Bay (an embayment of the Yellow Sea). The river is an important source of hydroelectric power, is used for transportation (especially of lumber from the rich forests on its banks), and provides fish for the riverine populations.

In addition to serving as a political boundary, the Yalu River constitutes a dividing line between Chinese and Korean cultures. It is generally known abroad by its Chinese name, Yalu, instead of by its Korean name, Amnok. According to ancient writing, the Chinese name, which is derived from the characters ya (“duck”) and lu (“greenish blue”), is a comparison of the blueness of the river’s waters to the greenish blue of a particular species of domestic duck that inhabits it. The Yalu did not become a political boundary until the Korean-Chinese border was established toward the end of the Korean Koryŏ dynasty in the 14th century. The river played an important political role in the Korean War (1950–53).

The Yalu rises in Tian Lake (known in Korean as Ch’ŏn Lake), a body of water of indeterminate depth on top of Mount Baitou (Mount Paektu), on the Chinese–North Korean border, at an elevation of about 9,000 feet (2,700 metres) above sea level. Winding southward as far as Hyesan, N.Kor., and then meandering northwestward for some 80 miles (130 km), the river reaches Linjiang, Jilin province, from which it flows southwestward for 200 miles (320 km) before emptying into Korea Bay.

Crater lake is at the summit of Mount Paektu, northern Yanggang province, North Korea.
Tian (Ch’ǒn) Lake, source of the Yalu River, at the summit of Mount Baitou (Paektu), on the …
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Except for small areas of basaltic lava along the easternmost part of the river’s course, the Yalu flows over Precambrian rock (more than 540 million years old) before its distributaries begin to spread out to form its delta. Throughout much of its course it flows through deep, gorgelike valleys, with mountains ranging in height from 1,900 to 3,800 feet (600 to 1,200 metres) above sea level rising on either bank. The principal tributaries are the Herchun, Changjin, and Tokro rivers from North Korea and the Hun River from China.

The upper part of the Yalu as far as Linjiang has rapid currents, many waterfalls, and sunken rocks. The middle part, which extends as far as Ch’osan (N.Kor.), contains considerable deposits of alluvium that make the riverbed so shallow in places that it prevents even timber rafts from passing downstream during the dry season. The lower part of the river’s course has a very slow current in which deposits of alluvium are even greater and form a vast delta containing many islands. The silting of the river has increased so much since the mid-20th century that, whereas ships of 1,000 tons could easily sail upstream to the port of Sinŭiju, N.Kor., in 1910, 500-ton ships can hardly manage to do so now.

The climate along the river’s course is typically continental and characterized by cold winters and warm summers. The river is frozen and thus closed to navigation during the four winter months (November through February). Because it is situated in mountain ranges and is not far from oceans, the river’s basin receives fairly heavy precipitation, much of which occurs as rainfall during June, July, August, and September. The abundant rainfall waters rich forests of conifers as well as deciduous trees. The forests provide a sanctuary for wildlife, including wild boars, wolves, tigers, jaguars, bears, foxes, and such birds as ptarmigans and pheasants. The river abounds in carp and eels.


It is notable that fish in two of the tributaries of the Yalu—the Herchun and Changjin—are like those in the upper stream of the Amur River in China and not like those in the Yalu. It is supposed that these tributaries once were connected with the Sungari (Songhua) River, a tributary to the Amur, only to be separated from it and connected with the Yalu when an eruption of Mount Baitou produced a flow of basaltic lava during the Quaternary Period (within the past 2.6 million years).

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Ever since a tribe called the Yojin was driven into Manchuria in the 16th century, the Korean side of the river has been inhabited only by Koreans. The northwestern (Chinese) bank is inhabited by Manchu and Han Chinese. The arable land along the river amounts to no more than 220,000 acres (89,000 hectares). Rice is the main crop grown along the river’s lower course; corn (maize), millet, soybeans, barley, and sweet potatoes are raised farther upstream, in the mountainous middle and upper reaches of the river.

The river measures about 460 feet (140 metres) in width and 3 feet (1 metre) in depth at Hyesan and is 640 to 800 feet (200 to 250 metres) wide and 4.5 feet (1.4 metres) deep at Chunggang. It reaches 1,280 feet (390 metres) in width at Sindojang, the location of an immense reservoir of the Sup’ung (Shuifeng) Dam hydroelectric station. In its estuary the river is 3 miles (5 km) wide and 8 feet (2.5 metres) deep.

The river is primarily important as a source for hydroelectricity. The largest dam on the river is located at Sup’ung, N.Kor., 35 miles (56 km) upstream from Sinŭiju. The height of the dam is 320 feet (100 metres) and its length is 2,880 feet (880 metres); the surface area of the reservoir is 133 square miles (345 square km). Its potential generating capacity amounts to about 7 million kilowatts, and it supplies electricity for a large area of the northern part of North Korea as well as adjacent areas of Jilin and Liaoning. Its importance to China, especially at the time of the establishment of the People’s Republic, was one of the main reasons that China entered the Korean War in 1950, when United Nations troops were advancing northward toward the Yalu.

Yalu River - Student Encyclopedia (Ages 11 and up)
An international waterway and a major source of hydroelectric power, the Yalu River forms the boundary between North Korea and the Northeast Region (Manchuria) of China. The river is 491 miles (790 kilometers) long. It begins atop Baitou Mountain at a height of 9,000 feet (2,750 meters) above sea level, winds southward to Hyesan, North Korea, changes course to the northwest for 80 miles (130 kilometers), and then turns to flow southwestward for 200 miles (320 kilometers) to empty into Korea Bay off the Yellow Sea. Its main tributaries are the Herchun and Changjin rivers.


                                                                                                                                                                  


If nuclear weapons were used to shut down the North Korean capacity to wage nuclear war, the Yalu river would be running with deadly poison for a very long time afterwards. 

Meanwhile, the US President 's order is needed for nuclear weapons to be used in combat.

The warm weather may flood the USA coasts making it seem vulnerable.  Rolling Stone magazine had an article last week about the very real danger to Washington DC if a 4th degree hurricane could reach that far north due to warming.  The Potomac could become a powerful flood of mud and flotsam.  Any of those could bring a similar scene, weapons on the way toward the US, Russia wounded but not dead, the Chinese the only large scale power untouched.

And all the Big Three  still armed with weapons that can poison the Earth for centuries to come.



Friday, November 3, 2017

                                                           TO CONTINUE

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I started two trains of thought last time and didn't allow myself enough time to take either let alone both of them into the depot.  I will get to the ice cap after I expand on  the notion of the whore.


Re 17:1 And one of the seven angels who had the seven vessels came and said to me, Come here, so that you may see the judging of the evil woman who is seated on the great waters;

"Harlot" is the word used in the King James.  The Basic English bible misses the point of her being the money hungry woman selling herself for power and temporary glory.  It is easier to transliterate this English translation of the Bible but please don't miss this point.  She is a Whore


2 With whom the kings of the earth made themselves unclean, and those who are on the earth were full of the wine of her evil desires.
Re 17:3 And he took me away in the Spirit into a waste land: and I saw a woman seated on a bright red beast, full of evil names, having seven heads and ten horns,
 4 And the woman was clothed in purple and bright red, with ornaments of gold and stones of great price and jewels; and in her hand was a gold cup full of evil things and her unclean desires;
 5 And on her brow was a name, SECRET, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF THE EVIL WOMEN AND OF THE UNCLEAN THINGS OF THE EARTH.
 6 And I saw the woman overcome as with the wine of the blood of the saints, and the blood of those put to death because of Jesus. And when I saw her, I was overcome with a great wonder.
 7 And the angel said to me, Why were you surprised? I will make clear to you the secret of the woman, and of the beast on which she is seated, which has the seven heads and the ten horns.
 8 The beast which you saw was, and is not; and is about to come up out of the great deep, and to go into destruction. And those who are on the earth, whose names have not been put in the book of life from the first, will be full of wonder when they see the beast, that he was, and is not, and still will be.
 9 Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman is seated:
 10 And they are seven kings; the five have come to an end, the one is, the other has not come; and when he comes, he will have to go on for a little time.
 11 And the beast which was, and is not, is himself the eighth, and is of the seven; and he goes into destruction.
 12 And the ten horns which you saw are ten kings, which still have been given no kingdom; but they are given authority as kings, with the beast, for one hour.
 13 These have one mind, and they give their power and authority to the beast.
 14 These will make war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, because he is the Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with him are named, marked out, and true.
 15 And he said to me, The waters which you saw, where the evil woman is seated, are peoples, and armies, and nations and languages.
 16 And the ten horns which you saw, and the beast, these will be turned against the evil woman, and will make her waste and uncovered, and will take her flesh for food, and will have her burned with fire.
 17 Because God has put it in their hearts to do his purpose, and to be of one mind, giving their kingdom to the beast, till the words of God have effect and are complete.
 18 And the woman whom you saw is the great town, which is ruling over the kings of the earth.
 (BBE)


There is much more here than just the whore, but the people and events listed give us the vision of the whore.  

I mentioned her as the goddess symbol but we can see her also as the goddess in person.  John is given visions and the visions also seem to have people behind the symbols in the visions.  So let's pursue that just a  bit.

First the Whore of Babylon represents that kingdom and religion mix.  Babylon was the first to worship a false god with a massive tower.  It established the pattern of using both the goddess religions and the hunter religions together, with the hunter taking the dominate role and that pattern linked to male domination. All the New Age ideas of women as superior are linked to the goddess system and all the ideas of male superior are linked to the hunter system.  That simplifies things incredibly but  it gives us the gist of those systems.  Once they are combined, the woman almost always takes a subservient role in the cultural design.  She may be "elevated" to a goddess of sexual desire, the porn queen with excessive "desirable" body traits, or as a goddess of the home, keeping the house, tending the children, cherished as an ideal of pure womanhood, but she is not represented in either system as a partner.  In Nineveh, for instance, young girls were sent to offer their bodies to anyone who passed by the entry gates of the city.  In America, we ended up with June Cleaver as the mother of us all.  While the latter is vastly kinder to the body of a woman and closer to recognizing her as a person, it still does not let her act as a partner and women  sometimes get taught that their sexual "power" is key to success in a repressed society and then you have Madonna and Britney Spears and Lady Gaga play on  that image to great success.  While that image then gets broadcast to the entire world in music videos and in some movies and TV shows.  The world was and is getting emotionally prepared for the arrival of that whore in person.

Now I want you to note that the whiore image includes a city.  Some have taken it to be Rome and the Catholic church with Mary worship as the image being followed here.  It seems even more correct when you see the "seven hills" image.  Rome was the first New Age government in that it allowed any  nation it conquered to continue with its religion.  It is clear in the Gospels that Israel was allowed to keep the Scriptures and teach from them.  The Jews were viewed as atheists since the held there to be only one God.  Acts shows Paul on Mars Hill lecturing about the unknown god whose empty pedestal stood among the hundreds of idols represented there in statues.  The point being that all those false gods keep the true God invisible to people, all that falsehood swamping the real One.  And the seven  hills also accentuates that this new future European Kingdom will be a replay of the Roman Empire.  It does not have to mean that it is set in Roman.  The fact it can better be translated as "mountains"  seems also to undercut the connection.  

Saddam Hussein was thought to be the Antichrist in some religious quarters because he was rebuilding Babylon.  My feeling is that he was the tool to get that done and much of that actual city has been "restored".  Iraq has an economy that has been rebuilt by the US with money that was much stronger then than now.  It's own currency has strengthened with oil sales, with the recapture of it's oil fields, and it has a government intent on being inclusive to try and stave off the the insurrections around it.   It will not join the Russian invasion force partial due to it's US alliance and partly because of religious differences with most of that force.  It's main problem is the Kurdish demand for a home, but that seems to be ending as that people have lost a lot of territory there:



The defeat of the Kurds in Kirkuk is devastatingly complete. “We used to be in control here and now we are not,” says Aso Mamand, the Kurdish leader in the city, summing up the situation in a helpless and embittered tone as he describes the fall of Kirkuk and the nearby oilfields to the Iraqi government forces. He would like some new power-sharing arrangements and warns of dire consequences if this does not happen, but he does not sound very hopeful.

Kirkuk used to be described as “the powder keg” of Iraq because of furiously contested rival claims to it by Kurdish nationalists and the Baghdad government. It was potentially even more explosive because its Kurdish, Arab and Turkmen communities make it a deeply divided place. But, despite these rancorous disputes and differences, when the final crisis came on 16 October, the switch from Kurdish to federal government control was surprisingly swift and peaceful.

Iraq to end semi-independent rule in Kurdistan 

Mr Mamand says that there was no battle because the Kurds simply did not have the military strength to hold the city and he is dismissive of conspiracy theories about its betrayal. Asked if the advance of the Iraqi forces could have been resisted if the two main Kurdish parties – his own Patriotic Union of Kurdistan and the Kurdistan Democratic Party led by president Masoud Barzani – had been united, he says: “Of course not. The Iraqi forces had tanks and planes and we had no chance. Maybe we would have lasted a day if we had fought, but the only result would have been bloodshed.”

Many Kurds fled at the time and not all have returned, but there is no sign of damage from the fighting and shops and markets are open. A thunderstorm briefly emptied the streets when we were there, but otherwise traffic was heavy and there are few soldiers or checkpoints. “Do you see anything out of the ordinary?” asks the acting governor, Rakan Saeed Ali al-Jubouri, the Arab former deputy governor, whose office looks little changed from when it was occupied by the Kurdish governor Najmaldin Karim who was forced to flee to Irbil. Mr Jubouri says that “the local police are the same and there are just two battalions of the counterterrorism forces in Kirkuk”. Iraqi battalions are small so this probably means only a few hundred soldiers.
                                                                                                                                                                   

Please note that those are US weapons supplied to help stabilize the Iraqi government.  "Peace" here is linked to an attack by a superior force. It also suggests the new thinking of the world, that ideals and a country are not necessarily worth dying for.  


The Kurds may resurge there or they may find a homeland elsewhere.  The image of Babylon riding the Beast who will make false peace treaties seems to indicate the conflict will be resolved by the AC and usher in a place where the ancient religion can grow. 

But step back a bit.  Recall that there are two main figures here.  The Anti Christ and the False Prophet.  The False Prophet will cause the world to worship the AC.  He will be apparently be loyal to the end as both of them are sent to the Lake of Fire together.

The whore of Babylon riding the AC's initial successes will be cast off.  Babylon the city will lay in  ruins.

Re 18:1 After these things I saw another angel coming down out of heaven, having great authority; and the earth was bright with his glory.
 2 And he gave a loud cry, saying, Babylon the great has come down from her high place, she has come to destruction and has become a place of evil spirits, and of every unclean spirit, and a hole for every unclean and hated bird.
 3 For through the wine of the wrath of her evil desires all the nations have come to destruction; and the kings of the earth made themselves unclean with her, and the traders of the earth had their wealth increased by the power of her evil ways.
 4 And another voice from heaven came to my ears, saying, Come out of her, my people, so that you may have no part in her sins and in her punishments.
 5 For her sins have gone up even to heaven, and God has taken note of her evil-doing.
 6 Give to her as she gave, even an increased reward for her works; in the cup which was mixed by her, let there be mixed as much again for herself.
 7 As she gave glory to herself, and became more evil in her ways, in the same measure give her pain and weeping: for she says in her heart, I am seated here a queen, and am no widow, and will in no way see sorrow.
 8 For this reason in one day will her troubles come, death and sorrow and need of food; and she will be completely burned with fire; for strong is the Lord God who is her judge.
 9 And the kings of the earth, who made themselves unclean with her, and in her company gave themselves up to evil, will be weeping and crying over her, when they see the smoke of her burning,
 10 Watching from far away, for fear of her punishment, saying, Sorrow, sorrow for Babylon, the great town, the strong town! for in one hour you have been judged.
 11 And the traders of the earth are weeping and crying over her, because no man has any more desire for their goods,
 12 Gold, and silver, and stones of great price, and jewels, and delicate linen, and robes of purple and silk and red; and perfumed wood, and every vessel of ivory, and every vessel made of fair wood, and of brass, and iron, and stone;
 13 And sweet-smelling plants, and perfumes, and wine, and oil, and well crushed grain, and cattle and sheep; and horses and carriages and servants; and souls of men.
 14 And the fruit of your soul's desire has gone from you, and all things delicate and shining have come to an end and will never again be seen.
 15 The traders in these things, by which their wealth was increased, will be watching far off for fear of her punishment, weeping and crying;
 16 Saying, Sorrow, sorrow for the great town, she who was clothed in delicate linen, and purple, and red; with ornaments of gold and stones of great price and jewels!
 17 For in one hour such great wealth has come to nothing. And every shipmaster, and all who are sailing on the sea, and sailors and all who get their living by the sea, were watching from far away,
 18 And crying out when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What town is like the great town?
 19 And they put dust on their heads, and were sad, weeping and crying, and saying, Sorrow, sorrow for the great town, in which was increased the wealth of all who had their ships on the sea because of her great stores! for in one hour she is made waste.
 20 Be glad over her, heaven, and you saints, and Apostles, and prophets; because she has been judged by God on your account.
 21 And a strong angel took up a stone like the great stone with which grain is crushed, and sent it into the sea, saying, So, with a great fall, will Babylon, the great town, come to destruction, and will not be seen any more at all.
 22 And the voice of players and makers of music will never again be sounding in you: and no worker, expert in art, will ever again be living in you; and there will be no sound of the crushing of grain any more at all in you;
 23 And never again will the shining of lights be seen in you; and the voice of the newly-married man and the bride will never again be sounding in you: for your traders were the lords of the earth, and by your evil powers were all the nations turned out of the right way.
 24 And in her was seen the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all who have been put to death on the earth.
 (BBE)

I am going to make a couple suggestions that I don't find in commentaries but first let Matt Henry expand on her description:



 Ver. 1. 

Here we have a new vision, not as to the matter of it, for that is contemporary with what came under the three last vials; but as to the manner of description, &c. Observe, 

1. The invitation given to the apostle to take a view of what was here to be represented: Come hither, and I will show thee the judgment of the great whore, &c., Re 17:1. This is a name of great infamy. A whore [in this passage] is one that is married, and has been false to her husband's bed, has forsaken the guide of her youth, and broken the covenant of God. She had been a prostitute to the kings of the earth, whom she had intoxicated with the wine of her fornication. 

2. The appearance she made: it was gay and gaudy, like such sort of creatures: She was arrayed in purple, and scarlet colour, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls, Re 17:4. Here were all the allurements of worldly honour and riches, pomp and pride, suited to sensual and worldly minds. 

3. Her principal seat and residence--upon the beast that had seven heads and ten horns; that is to say, Rome, the city on seven hills, infamous for idolatry, tyranny, and blasphemy. 

4. Her name, which was written on her forehead. It was the custom of impudent harlots to hang out signs, with their names, that all might know what they were. Now in this observe, 

(1.) She is named from her place of residence--Babylon the great. But, that we might not take it for the old Babylon literally so called, we are told there is a mystery in the name; it is some other great city resembling the old Babylon. 

(2.) She is named from her infamous way and practice; not only a harlot, but a mother of harlots, breeding up harlots, and nursing and training them up to idolatry, and all sorts of lewdness and wickedness--the parent and nurse of all false religion and filthy conversation

5. Her diet: she satiated herself with the blood of the saints and martyrs of Jesus. She drank their blood with such greediness that she intoxicated herself with it; it was so pleasant to her that she could not tell when she had had enough of it: she was satiated, but never satisfied.

                                                                                                                                                                   

We can recall the Roman Empire doing this, the massive killing of Christians.  We can recall the Catholic Church doing this as listed in the Book of Martyrs.  We can recall the Communist USSR doing this.  We can recall China and India still at it and the Islamic countries still doing it.  In the USA, we pretty it up with the word "persecution".  The more exact word is slaughter.  We have a thundering herd against abortion and yet no marches to stop the slaughter of Christians of different skin tones and ethnic backgrounds.  Don't get me wrong: we have the most work anywhere being done by Christians to stop this  with resources donated tom help, but then we find some who fight it ending up glorifying themselves and their ministries, having hour long talk shows concerning the evils of other people's politics and becoming attorney for the President.  Then you only hear the name of Jesus spoken on occasion.  You only hear of their efforts and what they have done.  This is not new.  It happens time and again because the whore of Babylon is not just a person or a city, it is a belief system that pervades all cultures, including the US.  

She loves idols but she also has a power to convince others that they should follow the idols, too.  She can seduce us into turning anything, everything into an idol, even the worship of God and the ministry we have to spread his Word.  

Look at rock music, like the song above.  She is an evil woman, but the singer's own heart betrayed him and turned her into the answer to his search for the perfect woman.  He wanted to find her and then everything would be good.  The cultural imperative to find that perfect mate and then things will be perfect led him to put her on a pedestal she didn't deserve and with a responsibility she could never live up to, but she was more than willing to use that feeling to get her way.  

It comes back to self worship.  Whore Babylon  let's the believer see that gods exist to serve him.  While God exists for us to serve.  When we get the idea our ministry is the only one that can do something, He will surely let us know we are wrong.  

But again, the MYSTERY of it all.

What was ancient Babylon like?

The Code of Hammurabi is a well-preserved Babylonian code of law of ancient Mesopotamia, dating back to about 1754 BC. It is one of the oldest deciphered writings of significant length in the world.  Wikkipesia

The code was basically: "The king owns everything.  Anything taken from the land belongs to the king and the act will be punished by the king.  Take a loaf of bread and YOUR ARM WILL BE CUT OFF FOR THE THEFT. Lie about someone stealing form you and you die. Do anyhting that displeases the king and you die."

The opening of the code says Hammurabi is "Bel"  who would later be one of the false gods Israel would be charged with cleansing from the land.  He was placed in power by Marduk who is sometimes seen as either Nimrod or his descendent.  Man as God.  The king is god.  Simple as that.  

And Hammy knew how we are all born evil and only the most powerful restraint can stop us from doing evil.  So he ruled by fear and power.  No thoughts of mercy ever enter this law.  

No mention of any other current god but Hammurabi.   

The Whore lets people worship anyone they want.  She is the New Age religion, perhaps even personified by a Madonna and she rides into power on the back of the AC. On her sexual exploits with men of power.  

She is also the money system.  She sells herself for riches, for power, for glory.  She is Capitalism at it's worse. She believes in the king of Id's golden rule: "Those who have the gold make the rules."   

I believe she has extensions of Babylon everywhere. 

In the Hollywood that made the movies mentioned last time.  That keeps making movies like Avatar, The Abyss, Alien, many others. 

In New York, the home of the banking industries and the stock exchange and the many brokerage firms and the insurance giants all of the officers of whom colluded to sell real estate bonds that mixed A bonds with junk bonds composed of, bad real estate funding deals and sell them in a package with other grade bonds as a great investment usually to mutual and hedge funds/  They made fortunes selling and repackaging and reselling none lamde real estate deal after another then phonied up the statistics until  they could sell off anything they personally owned.  Then let the market crash, wipe out some of the brokerage firms and then swooped in with their fortunes to buy up any good properties as individual accounts and foreclose  and make fortunes.  You can ask certain members of the current presidential administration since they remain his advisors.

 In Moscow, where Putin has become the richest man in the world. 


In China where one man now holds incredible power that was designed to be held by many.

"The Chinese president is set to have his own ideology enshrined in the Communist Party constitution, elevating him to the same political league as Mao Tse-tung, according to reports in China.

"The introduction of “Xi jinping Thought”  into the constitution would further strengthen his power. Alongside Mao, Deng Xiaoping, who retired in 1989, is the only other leader to have received the honour.

"Chinese leaders Hu Jintao and Jiang Zemin also had their own ideologies incorporated in the constitution. But unlike Mao and Deng their names were not included.'


 In Africa where rebellion, the political extension of human ego, thrives:


Those are just examples.  The spiritual force behind the Whore has been going on since before Babylon but found a name there in the earliest writing.  And roams  all over the Earth today.  

But who is the Whore?

Seventh Day Adventists believe it is Catholicism but expands that to the idea of  other Christians as well who don't keep the Sabbath.



Dave Hunt followed a very traditional line that the Whore is the Catholic church.  In its defense, the Church says it is really the OLD PAGAN Catholic church and that Revelation has already been fulfilled.  Kind of like: "Yes, I did it, but I'm all over that phase now."  Again if you think Catholicism has a new ecumneical spirit, spend a half hour or so listening to their radio programs. 


The Whore is a religious system riding in on the back of the AC because it preaches "You can be like god.  No, You can BE God."  It always has and will until its end.

To the degree a televangelist asks for money to use to airlift food to the needy in Africa and then uses nine of the ten planes to take his mining machinery out of his dimand mine inf Africa while showing food being dropped from thew other lone polane, HE is the whore of Babylon. (The Best Democracy Money Can Buy.)  That as money as the true God.

To the degree that any church through the ages has enriched itself and killed the saints as Catholicism has, IT is the Whore. That fits the description of her actions to a "T".   You know, like a cross.

To the degree that one church says others are going to Hell for not worshiping on the right day as Adventism does , IT is the Whore. Wishing for the blood of the Saints to prove itself right is the same as actually killing them.  That calims God's power to damn or redeem as it's own and adds legalism to the mix.

To the degree that any church suggests that those who don't exhibit a single gift are not saved and then use that gift without regard to restrictions placed by a true Apostle, IT is the Whore.  That allows talking in spiritual voices that are not required to make themselves known, unloosing spiritual forces undefined to the speaker.  

To the degree I or anyone else criticizing any of the above acts without the love of God in their hearts, I and THEY are also the Whore.

The system always opposes the Lamb.  In the hearts of men.  In the core of sin.  Babylon began the false system of man as God.  It dominated in the Roman era of Christ's time and was allowed to take the :Lamb for sacrifice to it's system.  That makes it think it can win again.

Recall Daniel. Captive in Babylon during it's greatest period.  The kings of the AC confederacy as the political power, as the ten toes of clay:

  Da 2:1 And in the second year of the reign of king Nebuchadnezzar, Nebuchadnezzar dreamed dreams, with which his spirit was troubled and his sleep left him.
 2 And the king commanded to call to the horoscopists, and to the conjurers, and to the sorcerers, and to the Chaldeans, to tell to the king his dreams. So they came and stood before the king.
 3 And the king said to them, I have dreamed a dream, and my spirit was troubled to know the dream.
 4 And the Chaldeans spoke to the king in Aramaic, O king, live forever. Tell your servants the dream, and we will reveal the meaning.
 5 The king answered and said to the Chaldeans, The thing has gone from me. If you will not make known to me the dream, with its meaning, you will be made into mere members, and your houses shall be made an outhouse.
 6 But if you make known the dream and its meaning, you shall receive gifts and a present and great honor from me. Therefore reveal to me the dream and its meaning.
 7 They answered again and said, Let the king tell his servants the dream, and we will reveal its meaning.
 8 The king answered and said, For I know that you surely want to gain time, because you see the thing is gone from me.
 9 But if you will not make the dream known to me, there is only one judgment for you. For you have prepared lying and deceiving words to speak before me, until the time has changed. Therefore tell me the dream, and I shall know that you can reveal to me its meaning.
 10 The Chaldeans answered before the king and said, There is not a man on the earth who can reveal the king's matter, because not any king, lord, nor ruler has asked such a thing from any horoscopist or conjurer or Chaldean.
 11 And it is a rare thing that the king asks, and there is no other who can reveal it before the king, except the gods, whose dwelling is not with flesh.
 12 For this cause the king was enraged and angered, and commanded all the wise men of Babylon to be destroyed.

The false system failed the king and was destroyed.  It will eventually fail the AC and he will do the same thing.


 13 And the law went out that the wise men should be killed. And they sought Daniel and his fellows to be killed.
 14 Then Daniel answered with counsel and insight to Arioch the chief of the king's executioners, who had gone forth to kill the wise men of Babylon.
 15 He answered and said to Arioch the king's captain, Why is the decree so hasty from the king? Then Arioch made the thing known to Daniel.
 16 Then Daniel went in and asked of the king that he would give him time, and that he would make known the meaning to the king.
 17 Then Daniel went to his house and made the thing known to Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah, his companions,
 18 that they might pray for the mercies of God in Heaven concerning this secret, that Daniel and his companions should not perish with the rest of the wise men of Babylon.
 19 Then the secret was revealed to Daniel in a night vision. And Daniel blessed the God of Heaven.
 20 Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of God forever and ever, for wisdom and might are His.
 21 And He changes the times and the seasons; He removes kings and sets up kings. He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to those who have understanding.
 22 He reveals the deep and secret things; He knows what is in the darkness, and the light dwells with Him.
 23 I thank You, and praise You, O God of my fathers, who has given me wisdom and might, and have made known to me now what we asked of You. For You have now made known to us the king's matter.
 24 Then Daniel went in to Arioch, whom the king had chosen to destroy the wise men of Babylon. He went and said this to him; Do not destroy the wise men of Babylon. Bring me in before the king, and I will declare the meaning to the king.
 25 Then Arioch quickly brought Daniel in before the king, and said this to him, I have found a man of the captives of Judah who will make the meaning known to the king.
 26 The king answered and said to Daniel, whose name was Belteshazzar, Are you able to make known to me the dream which I have seen, and its meaning?
 27 Daniel answered before the king and said, The secret which the king has demanded cannot be shown to the king by the wise men, the conjurers, the horoscopists, or the fortune-tellers.
 28 But there is a God in Heaven who reveals secrets and makes known to king Nebuchadnezzar what shall be in the latter days. Your dream, and the visions of your head upon your bed are these.
 29 As for you, O king, your thoughts came on your bed, what should happen after this. And He who reveals secrets makes known to you what shall happen.
 30 But as for me, this secret is not revealed to me for any wisdom that I have more than any living man, but so that the meaning might be known to the king, and that you might know the thoughts of your heart.
 31 You, O king, were seeing. And, behold! A great image! That great image, whose brightness was excellent, stood before you. And its form was dreadful.
 32 This image's head was of fine gold; his breast and his arms were of silver; his belly and his thighs were of bronze;
 33 his legs were of iron; his feet were part of iron and part of clay.
 34 You watched until a stone was cut out without hands, which struck the image upon its feet which were of iron and clay, and broke them to pieces.
 35 Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver, and the gold were broken to pieces together. And they became like the chaff of the summer threshing floors. And the wind carried them away, so that no place was found for them. And the stone that struck the image became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.
 36 This is the dream. And we will tell its meaning before the king.

God sends a messenger of His truth of His vision.  This will happen throughout the end times.  That king will be AhaB AND NOT LISTEN.

 37 You, O king, are a king of kings. For the God of Heaven has given you a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory.
 38 And wherever the sons of men, the beasts of the field, and the birds of the heavens live, He has given them into your hand, and has made you ruler over them all. You are this head of gold.
 39 And after you shall arise another kingdom lower than you, and another third kingdom of bronze, which shall rule over all the earth.
 40 And the fourth kingdom shall be as strong as iron. Since iron crushes and smashes all things; and as the iron that shatters all these, it will crush and shatter.
 41 And as to that which you saw: the feet and toes, part of potters' clay and part of iron; the kingdom shall be divided. But there shall be in it the strength of the iron, because you saw the iron mixed with miry clay.
 42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly brittle.
 43 And as you saw iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mix themselves with the seed of men. But they shall not cling to one another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
 44 And in the days of these kings, the God of Heaven shall set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed. And the kingdom shall not be left to other peoples, but it shall crush and destroy all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever.
 45 Because you saw that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it crushes the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold, the great God has made known to the king what shall occur after this. And the dream  is certain, and its meaning is sure.

The evil kingdom of the ten will be crushed by the "not human" stone of Christ.  And that king listened to God and was seen as gold even as the AC will not and is seen as the clay we all go to after death.  


 46 Then king Nebuchadnezzar fell on his face and worshiped Daniel, and he commanded to offer an offering and incense to him.
 47 The king answered Daniel and said, It is true that your God is a God of gods, and a Lord of kings, and a revealer of secrets, since you could reveal this secret.
 48 Then the king made Daniel great, and gave him many great gifts, and made him ruler over all the province of Babylon, and chief of the prefects over all the wise men of Babylon.
 49 And Daniel asked the king, and he set Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego over the affairs of the province of Babylon. But Daniel sat in the gate of the king.
 (MKJV)

The Whore will head a religious system.  (The FP may well be the head Whore of the system and may be the woman we see on the Beast's shoulders.  But it seems more likely he will be her second in command.  In the Bible, there seems to be no gender designation for the office of Prophet.)  And the Whore will carry a message that everyone is God which the AC will ride to power.  Even as the Emergent Church in the USA.

Please notice that many of the current combination-of-religions ideas came from Europe so there are decades of preparation there for the ideas to take full flower.

But then the miracle of the false resurrection will occur most likely after the AC struggles with and kills the Two Messengers.  He will receive a death blow and then recover.  Then the False Prophet will begin to preach that there is only one God, "who is like unto the Beast?"    He is you may one day become if you follow him.  The comic book TV series Legends of Tomorrow, featured an immortal villain in it's first season who offered his blood to his true followers as a touch of immortality for them.  The Beast may aslo do so in a mockery, as that act was, of communion.  Then the old system of "You can be God."  get's reolaced, moved from it's Babylon to Jerusalem which will be the political home of the AC.  Some of her followers will stay with the Whore who will fear she has lost power and will want to wage war against him and may even call the kings of the Earth to be with her.  This would be where three of the countries in the alliance  would leave for her calling and they like her are defeated and there three "horns" are replaced with new horns.  So the beast has ten horns instead of seven.  (See 17 above.)

And her home of Babylon gets annihilated by the Beast. "For the sake of defending the kingdom"  the AC will have long since taken over any remaining nuclear weapons.  

And we hear the echo of Isiah:

Isa 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, says the LORD; though your sins are as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red like crimson, they shall be like wool.
 19 If you are willing and obedient, you shall eat the good of the land;
 20 but if you refuse and rebel, you shall be devoured with the sword; for the mouth of the LORD has spoken.
 21 How has the faithful city become a harlot? It was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it, but now murderers.
 22 Your silver has become dross, your wine mixed with water;
 23 your rulers are rebellious, and companions of thieves; everyone loves a bribe, and is pursuing rewards; they do not judge the orphan, nor does the cause of the widow come to them.
 24 And the Lord, Jehovah of Hosts, the mighty One of Israel, says, Alas! I will ease Myself of My foes, and avenge Myself of My enemies.
 25 And I will turn back My hand on you, and purge away your dross as with lye, and take away all your alloy.
 26 And I will restore your judges as at first, and your counselors as at the beginning; afterwards you shall be called the city of righteousness, the faithful city.
 (MKJV)
  
The scarlet as evil.  these events have happened through time, were in place during Jesus era, yet God has not done verse 26 yet.  It predicts the city after the Tribulation has ended and the true King rules.  

One "member" of this group that is never mentioned is named in John's letter:

1Jo 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
 4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
 (KJV)

It is the spirit of antichrist, the spirit of rebellion against God that powers the Whore, the political and the religious, every fleshly system that ends up distancing the person of God. of Christ, of the HOLY Spirit.   The Madonna may actually exist or merely be a symbol, but her power is real and influences everyone who has a religious  bone in his or her body.  Meaning all of us.  Part of being saved is to kill her in us now, though she is called "our old man"  to worship the true God with our whole heart even as the AC will kill her physically then so people will worship him with their whole hearts.  Then the oil of God will flow and burn brightly in OUR lamps and we will not miss the arrival of the Savior.  

Because the power of the ice cap awaits to make your heart cold and away for God.  

Okay Next time the ice cap.  I am approaching good time management at a snail's pace. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP_XNlt8Opk